Our community welcomes everyone from around the world to discuss world history, historical periods, and themes in history military history, archaeology, arts and culture, and history in books and movies. Dec 17, 2007 some books on medieval troops credit the genoese crossbowmen as being wellequipped. The genoese crossbowman is the unique unit of the italians in age of empires ii hd. From crecy, edward marched on to calais, which surrendered to him in 47. Balestrieri genovesi were a famous military corps of the middle ages, which acted both in defence of the republic of genoa, and as mercenaries for other italian or european powers. The navy declined in power after the 16th century, periodically coming under the control of foreign. Battle of crecy project gutenberg selfpublishing ebooks. Edward iiis reign was of course dominated by the hundred years war which actually lasted from 371453. Genoese crossbowmen have an attack bonus vs cavalry and as such can prove to be a great defense against enemy knights, but not against cataphracts as those have a high amount of bonus defense. Crossbowmen were highly paid professional mercenaries. Through genoese participation on the crusades, genoese colonies were established in the middle east, in the aegean, in sicily and northern africa. The genoese crossbowmen employed by king philip then advanced to the accompaniment of drums and trumpets but quickly broke their ranks after they realised they were fully exposed to the enemy archers. Balestrieri genovesi was a famous military corps of the middle ages, which acted both in defence of the republic of genoa and as a mercenary force for other italian or european powers. At crecy, edward halted his army and prepared for the french.
The french brought up 60,000 troops 12,000 men at arms, 17,000 squires etc, 6,000 genoese crossbowmen, and 25,000 of the feudal untrained light infantry. This article is within the scope of the military history wikiproject. There were great variations between armies because they had access to different r. Who were the best elite unit during the middle ages plenty. And throughout history, some units have fared much better at the job than any other, as were about to find out. English longbowmen defeat a force of 6,000 genoese crossbowmen at the battle of crecy in northern france during the hundred years war. What is the academic consensus on how many soldiers were at the battle of agincourt. Medieval literature makes several references to gascon, flemish and especially genoese to denote elite troops wielding crossbows. In 37, edward iii of england laid claim to the french throne, thus starting the lengthy series of conflicts known as the hundred years war. English longbow archery history learn about the history. The french king, seeing the retreat of the genoese, ordered his own cavalry to charge at and through them causing even greater confusion. It pitted the french army, then considered the best in europe, and their miscellaneous allies against the english under king edward iii and the black prince, who as yet had no great military reputation.
The french army contained a large contingent of mercenary genoese crossbowmen, masters of one of the most effective weapons of late medieval warfare. Download it once and read it on your kindle device, pc, phones or tablets. A pavise or pavis, pabys, or pavesen was an oblong shield used during the late 14th to early 16th centuries. Crossbows now can cast bolts approximately 200 yards. The genoese crossbowmen were led by genoese nobility in battle, and were the best defense as well as offense unit deployed in the various wars they participated in. The genoese, an internationally recognized elite, made use of the pavise, utilizing pavesarii shield bearers. Sep 03, 2001 genoa and the genoese, 9581528 steven a. The genoese became known for good quality crossbows and in providing mercenaries with crossbows. Many italian city states lacked the armed forces to defend themselves but had plenty of money to pay others to do it, thanks to their position as key cities on european trade routes. However, it isnt exactly hard to shoot a crossbow accurately and professionalism shouldnt be so hard that you cant train, say, a farmer from york and label them yorkish crossbowmen. The genoese crossbowmen were outshot by the english longbows and the pattern was set for the rest of the day. In the mid 14th century the french employed large numbers of genoses crossbowmen who were reported to take to the field with only 12 bolts each, see w. The history of humankind is essentially the history of war itself. However, the first ones in pavises are documented in.
How effective were english longbows against genoese crossbows. Additional content available includes a full french campaign, mercenary swiss pikeman, mercenary genoese crossbowmen and even some cheats. This weapon would earn its fame from the hundred years war fought between england and france, in battles such as crecy 46, poitiers 56 and agincourt 14. This offers a clear and simple introduction to the complexity of the hundred years war. I never realized how many of you were history buffs, or at least wanted to be history buffs. According to wikipedia, curry says the english had 9,000 men and the french 12,000. Sep 06, 2014 genoese crossbowmen history and equipment metatron. Sun tzus book the art of war, which first appeared between 500 bc and 300 bc. However, it looks like some disagree with currys assessment on the numbers at the battle. Genoese commanders value their crossbowmen highly, thus they equip them with brigandine armour and the large pavise style shield. He ordered the marshals to take 1,000 menatarms and 1,000 archers west to try to find a place they could cross. The first major contact between the two sides was a naval battle off the coast of flanders. How effective were english longbowmen versus genoese. Story movies created from hundreds of hours of the tv channel history library combined with in game engine footage.
The english longbow or welsh longbow was the ak47 of its day. For use in melee genoese crossbowmen are also equipped with a long sword. Ive always been a bit of a history geek, so i already knew some of this. Advantages of crossbows vs english longbows history forum. It is however during edward iiis reign when more documented evidence confirms the important role that the longbow has played in both english and welsh history. Devries et al, battles of the medieval world 1500, amber books metro books, new york, 2006 pp 6 ff. Once the weapon of choice among medieval warriors, crossbows were later maligned in preference for the more popular longbow. They were thus mobile, and formidable against any feudal host. However, one of the most requested articles ive received was a piece on the origins and history of the crossbow. The battle at crecy shocked european leaders because a small but disciplined english force fighting on foot had overwhelmed the finest cavalry in europe. Illustration omitted for proof, one need only take a brief look at both the ancient and modern history of crossbows.
Genoese crossbowman age of forgotten empires wiki fandom. In one of his poems, the bard refers to a soldier who had sailed with edward iii. Founded in 2006, historum is a history forum dedicated to history discussions and historical events. Jul 11, 2012 the english longbow available in fiction, nonfiction, and video by scott higginbotham bertrands body was spent as he idly fingered the leather grip on his sword, alternately pulling it halfway from its scabbard and then pushing it back down into the throat. Nicolle, a noted military historian with a long history with osprey publishhng, does the honours here provided a lucid and easy to follow introduction before taking us through the invasion, the fighting at caen and the french response to the humiliation of english troops ravaging their soil. Genoese crossbowman age of empires series wiki fandom. This elite mercenary infantry in service of the holy roman empire is what was responsible for securing the empires many victories. Armed with crossbows, it fought both on land and in naval battles. The genoese crossbowmen were a famous military corps of the middle ages, which acted both in defence of the republic of genoa, and as mercenaries for other italian or european powers. I am afraid it is very hard to answer this question for two reasons. The genoese crossbowmen were outshot by the english longbows and. Early history of the genoese family this web page shows only a small excerpt of our genoese research.
In the naval engagement near sluys, in holland, where edward iii. Armies of crecy and poitiers menatarms series, no 111 rothero, christopher, rothero, christopher on. Battle of crecy, august 26, 46, battle that resulted in victory for the english in the first decade of the hundred years war against the french. For as long as people have existed, so have reasons for them to fight, either for territorial domination, resources, or, in more recent cases, fossil fuel reserves. What made the genoese crossbowmen so special and why were. Jan 24, 2019 tired from the march, the genoese crossbowmen also complained at having to advance without their pavises and reserves of ammunition, which were still far back in the baggage train with the rest of the foot soldiers. Edward decided he was trapped about the same time philip did. It is written from the perspective of one of the crossbowmen in orellana. The most detailed and realistic medieval combat model ever created. The mercenary companies that played a part in the hundred years war had their origins in th century italy. The disadvantage of the crossbow was it took longer to load, longer to build, and they cost more than a regular bow.
Book of the hunt, a treatise on hunting by gaston phoebus, includes crossbow technique. The nook book ebook of the the book of the crossbow. Genuensis ergo mercator, or a genoese therefore a merchant but the genoese were skilled sailors and ferocious warriors in addition see also the genoese crossbowmen. Comparing ancient and medieval warfare history forum.
He has written and illustrated several titles for the osprey menat arms series including menatarms 210 the venetian empire 12001670 and menatarms 1 the armies of agincourt. Not only does it take years to train a yeoman and replace a bow, it should be pointed out that the battles which put the longbow in the history books were fought with the french knights charging up an incline while their genoese crossbowmen werent well provisioned for. Who were the best elite unit during the middle ages. The republic of genoa extended over modern liguria and piedmont, sardinia, corsica, nice and had practically complete control of the tyrrhenian sea. They fought on land and at sea for italy and european powers. Genoese crossbowmen receive a lot of praise whenever i read about them.
Were they famous because they were disciplined mercenaries first and foremost. Italians are world renowned for their love of the crossbow, none more so then the genoese. In most medieval european armies, how did the numbers of. Genoese crossbowmen history and equipment metatron. Money appears necessary not only in time of war but also in peace richard wrote, adding that in war it is. This book is a comprehensive history of the economy of genoa in the early middle ages. In 46 the genoese crossbowmen were defeated by the english at crecy using the longbow. The genoese crossbowmen were outshot by the english. The genoese crossbowmen made their name and fame at the battle of jaffa in the third crusade, fighting for king richard the lionheart of england.
Several historians have accepted the figure of 6,000 genoese mercenary crossbowmen. With a firing rate of three five volleys per minute they were however no match for the english and welsh longbow men who could fire. Often large enough to cover the entire body, it was used by archers and infantry soldiers. The figure has been questioned by schnerb as unlikely based on estimates on the number of available crossbowmen in all of france 2,000 in 40, only a few years previously. Set in the middle of the italian riviera, genoa is perhaps best known as the birthplace of christopher columbus. The most famous crossbowmen by far, from the first triumphs of the crossbow in the third crusade in 1192, to the 16th century, when firearms finally drove the crossbow from the battlefield, were the genoese crossbowmen. Christopher rothero is an expert on the armies of medieval europe. Armed with crossbows made in genoa by the balistai corporation, they. Not all of genoas merchandise was so innocuous, however, as medieval genoa became a major. While there were your famous knights and cavalrymen, one unit that doesnt get as much recognition is genoese crossbowmen. In this video i talk specifically about genoese crossbowmen, a northern italian medieval merchenary unit.
The situation got so bad that as they started to flee, the french heavy cavalry charged through their ranks to save the day at all cost. Crossbows were already a feared weapon, due to their ease of use and ability to pierce armor, though it was crossbowmen from genoa who really put them on the map. Having over three crossbowmen per pavise suggests that they took turns using the pavise as cover and were used primarily in static or defensive formations. Perhaps the most remarkable figure in czech history. The battle of crecy was the first major land battle of the hundred years war. Armies of crecy and poitiers menatarms series, no 111. To make matters worse, the crossbowmens advance also was marked by a sudden rain shower. The supposition that the crossbows of the genoese at crecy had bows of wood, or of wood and horn, is confirmed in a curious way by davidapgwilym, a famous welsh bard and archer of the fourteenth century.
It is a foot archer with an attack bonus against cavalry. Genoese crossbowmen can be upgraded to elite genoese crossbowmen in the imperial age. The most notable is the genoese crossbowmen who were one of the most respected military corps during the first crusade. These troops could all ride, but generally preferred to fight on foot. The commanders of these genoese crossbowmen were usually nobles coming from the various families in genoa, and the crossbowmen themselves were clad in light armor and given either a short sword or a dagger for close quarter protection. The book includes politics and the citys military exploits, but the driving force of this book is the fuel that kept the engine running or not. What is the academic consensus on how many soldiers were. In the 12th century, the crossbow was considered by many to be a weapon of massread more. Prestwich to have been as much a commonplace in 1179 when he wrote it as it seems today.
The english longbow available in fiction, nonfiction, and video. Another 72 words 5 lines of text covering the years 70, 1491, 1563 and 1731 are included under the topic early genoese history in all our pdf extended history products and printed products wherever possible. This was the battle against saladin which forced him to negotiate a peace and open up jerusalem to christian pilgrims again. If you are interested in amazon history, especially as it relates to explorers, this is a book. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. The holy roman emperor was so frustrated and angry with the powerful genoese crossbowmen that he reportedly ordered his men to cut off the fingers of any crossbow archers captured in battle. A crossbowmans story of the first exploration of the. From the 11th century onward the genoese navy protected the interests of the republic and projected its power throughout the mediterranean sea. I am not entirely sure what their reputation is based on. Tired from the march, the genoese crossbowmen also complained at having to advance without their pavises and reserves of ammunition, which were still far back in the baggage train with the rest of the foot soldiers. Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading 1415 agincourt. The french possibly did line up some 12000 menatarms and knights plus half that number of mercenary genoese crossbowmen. Jul 28, 2019 the battle marked the decline of the mounted knight in european warfare and the rise of england as a world power.
Marineria genovese, also known as the genoese fleet, was the naval contingent of the republic of genoas military. To make matters worse, the crossbowmen s advance also was marked by a sudden rain shower. May 23, 2012 for much of the middle ages, the crossbow was considered to be one of the most destabilizing weapons in existence, not unlike todays nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. In 1098, it is said the ashes of john the baptist, now the patron saint of the city, arrived in genoa. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.
Jan 17, 2020 founded in 2006, historum is a history forum dedicated to history discussions and historical events. Crossbowmen article about crossbowmen by the free dictionary. Feb 10, 2015 the most detailed and realistic medieval combat model ever created. The genoese crossbowman is a ranged crossbowwielding unit unique to the italians civilization, and can be created at the castle. At the battle of crecy, in 46, the genoese crossbowmen placed at the vanguard of the french army got totally wrecked by the english longbowmen. Jan 24, 2017 while it is true that the english longbows were superior to the genoese crossbows due to their longer range and faster rate of fire, the crossbow could be just as effective, especially when employed by skilled troops such as the genoese who were r. Genoese crusaders brought home a green glass goblet from the levant see also holy chalice, which the genoese have long regarded as the holy grail. Genoese crossbowmen m2tw unit superior italian crossbow unit armoured with brigandine and a pavise. Crossbows were not the weapons of large peasant armies who had fairly little training. Firearms were easier to maintain, transport, train on and make.
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